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Josh Berman catches up with Adam Cogan at NDC Melbourne to explore the cutting-edge world of enterprise AI applications. In thischat, Adam teases his upcoming talk where he shares 12 essential lessons from building SSW’s AI-powered tool Yak Shaver. e dives into the evolution from traditional apps to generative AI, the challenges faced with Microsoft Teams, cost modeling missteps, and how the newly emerging MCP is reshaping what intelligent agents can do. Whether you’re an AI developer, architect, or product owner, this session is a goldmine of practical takeaways to bring into your next AI project.
00:00 | Introduction
00:36 | How his AI session stands out from others
01:05 | Lessons learned from building Yak Shaver
01:27 | Cost modeling mistakes and advice
01:50 | Architectural pivots and smarter decisions
02:00 | Moving from workflow to agent-based models
02:39 | How users interact differently than expected
02:55 | The future of Yak Shaver with MCP agent compatibility
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About the speakers

Josh Berman
Josh is an SSW Software Developer working in the Sydney Office. He is currently a student at the University of Sydney, studying a double bachelor degree of Advanced Computing and Commerce, majoring in Computer Science and Finance.
Josh joined SSW through the FireBoot Camp work experience scheme, where he honed his skills in both front-end and back-end development, working with Angular, C#, .NET Framework, SQL, and various other technologies on SSW's internal projects. He takes pride in his effective communication and problem-solving abilities, always striving to enhance efficiency and reduce redundancy.
Since joining SSW, Josh has honed his front-end development skills by working on a variety of projects using React and Next.js. He has further expanded his expertise through his contributions to TinaCMS. Josh represented SSW at NDC Copenhagen 2024, where he showcased TinaCMS to hundreds of developers, highlighting its capabilities as the world's leading Markdown website editor.
Outside of software development, Josh is always finding a way to stay active. Whether in the gym, out in the surf, or on the pitch playing football. He has a natural passion for strengthening both his mind and body.